[DCRM-L] DPC: minor wording change to 7A1.1 for clarity

[Mark H Danley (mdanley)]

I agree wholeheartedly with this logic and approach.  In fact, as a researcher I have benefitted from notes that document just the kinds of things Erin mentions: attributions, matters of bibliographic history, etc.   -- as I am sure others on this list have as well.    The phrasing suggested below would remind the cataloger he or she could add such notes even though the rules for other descriptive areas do not say to do so.    Some may contend that discussing matters of phrasing at this level of detail is too involuted, however in this case the result will be catalog records that help researchers.  I applaud that.
Sincerely,
Mark
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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Erin Blake
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] DPC: minor wording change to 7A1.1 for clarity

Ahaaaaa... now I think I'm getting it (after talking with Deborah off-line about this). Notes are especially important for recording information for which no provision is made elsewhere. It's not that the rules exclude the information from the other areas, it's that some types of information have no corresponding ISBD area. There is provision for recording a lengthy title in Area 1, so although you could also abridge it in area 1 and put the whole thing in a note, notes aren't especially important for recording title information. There is no "attributions" area, or "bibliographic history" area, though, for example, so the note area is especially important for that type of information.

New proposed revision:
7A1.1. Notes qualify and amplify the formal description, and are especially important for recording types of information not covered by areas 1 through 6.
Thanks,

     EB.

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From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah J. Leslie
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 2:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] DPC: minor wording change to 7A1.1 for clarity

The original text is really quite clumsy, but the problem with the proposed revisions is that it sounds like rules are doing the excluding. They are not; catalogers are doing the excluding on the basis of the rules. Is something like this better?
7A1.1. Notes qualify and amplify the formal description, and . They are especially appropriate for recording information not provided for in that rules exclude from other areas of the description.

That is (in case the bold and strikeout gets stripped)

7A1.1. Notes qualify and amplify the formal description, and are especially appropriate for recording information not provided for in other areas of the description.


From: dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Meyer-Roux
Sent: Monday, 23 May, 2011 12:25
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Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] DPC: minor wording change to 7A1.1 for clarity

I find Manon's sentences to be the clearest.  Shouldn't the "may" be omitted though, to keep in line with the more direct meaning of the original sentence Erin was working on, so as to have the following:

7A1.1. Notes qualify and amplify the formal description. They are
especially appropriate for recording information that rules exclude from other areas of the description.
Karen

>>> Manon Theroux <manon.theroux at gmail.com> 5/21/2011 9:55 AM >>>
The DCRM(B) sentence is a carryover from DCRB. I never found it
confusing. But, I guess some do? Responding to Lenore's suggested
wording:
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