[DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description

Wed Oct 28 10:36:09 MDT 2015

Indeed! Very cool. Thanks for sharing.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
wrote:

> Karen, that's great!
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> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu |
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> folger.edu
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Nipps, Karen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 October 2015 12:25
> *To:* rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu; DCRM Users' Group
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> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description
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> Hi, Randal and All – I am excited to report that the dream of linked
> copy-specific images has become a reality at Harvard. We do this from our
> desks using inexpensive scanners. Here are a few examples. Our clever IT
> staff also figured out how to embed thumbnails in a list display. Let me
> know if you would like to know more about the magic potion we concocted to
> make this a reality. Best, Karen
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> *http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/014289772/catalog
> <http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/014289772/catalog>*
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> *http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/013393820/catalog
> <http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/013393820/catalog>*
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> *http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/014156281/catalog
> <http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/014156281/catalog>  *
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> *http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/000003676/catalog
> <http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/000003676/catalog>*
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> *http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/004264138/catalog
> <http://id.lib.harvard.edu/aleph/004264138/catalog> *
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> Karen Nipps
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> Head, Rare Book Team
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> Houghton Library
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> Harvard University
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> Cambridge, MA 02138
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> Phone: 617-496-9190
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> FAX: 617-495-1376
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Randal S. BRANDT
> *Sent:* Monday, October 26, 2015 12:57 PM
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description
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> Many thanks to everyone who responded to this query. I've decided to keep
> things simple and go with "edges decorated with alternating red and green
> stripes." Maybe Deborah's dream of linked copy-specific images will someday
> be a reality...
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> As for the color choice, I suspect it mainly had to do with the colors of
> the illustrations contained in the text. It is an herbal, with
> approximately 400 woodcuts, all hand colored. The Bancroft copy is very
> similar to this copy, if anyone wants to feast their eyes on it:
> http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/0008/bsb00082640/images/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__daten.digitale-2Dsammlungen.de_-7Edb_0008_bsb00082640_images_&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=osltSoeCDQty5lmuoulgrFY35SLz-pJgoWLp6lezjgs&m=FSMSEPGTxKsN8N1hvXRd4GB3yZYiWbAEYBREnEjsx4Y&s=LFqyGTXQkMhPdx-w-maPCieR9M-07eLHedQ0Z5neKT0&e=>
> (note that this copy includes a lengthy manuscript index at the beginning;
> the text starts at image 39, the frontispiece is image 38 -- sadly wanting
> from Bancroft's copy...)
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> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Deborah J. Leslie <DJLeslie at folger.edu>
> wrote:
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> What's wrong with sticking to what you know for sure: "Decorated with red
> and green stripes." Add a URL to the image to your record, and you've
> covered your bases.
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> Something that the BSC can do when it's finished all its other projects.
> (-;): turn its attention to protocols or best practices for linking
> copy-specific images to bibliographical and/or holdings records.
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> Deborah J. Leslie | Folger Shakespeare Library | djleslie at folger.edu |
> 202.675-0369 | 201 East Capitol St., SE, Washington, DC 20003 | www.
> folger.edu
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__folger.edu&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=osltSoeCDQty5lmuoulgrFY35SLz-pJgoWLp6lezjgs&m=FSMSEPGTxKsN8N1hvXRd4GB3yZYiWbAEYBREnEjsx4Y&s=8w59Ib2YoO4Zs5NexrSA_6epjsdav7lk_wogxkk_OpQ&e=>
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu] *On
> Behalf Of *Alex Kyrios
> *Sent:* Monday, 19 October 2015 09:36
> *To:* DCRM Users' Group
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> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description
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> I had to do a bit of research here, but the modern Italian flag only seems
> to date back to 1797. Portugal’s green and red flag is an even later
> creation (1911). We can’t definitively date the colors based on a Flickr
> photo, but they look older than that to me. The Welsh flag dates to Henry
> VII, which would be contemporaneous with the book’s publication, but that
> seems a bit of a stretch. Of course, we may be looking too closely at this;
> maybe they just looked pretty or were the colors at hand!
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> Alex Kyrios
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> Cataloger
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> Folger Shakespeare Library
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> (202) 608-1713
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> akyrios at folger.edu
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> *From:* dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu [mailto:dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu
> <dcrm-l-bounces at lib.byu.edu>] *On Behalf Of *Randal S. BRANDT
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 15, 2015 8:03 PM
> *To:* Jane Stemp Wickenden
> *Cc:* DCRM Users' Group
> *Subject:* Re: [DCRM-L] Fore-edge decoration description
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> Unfortunately, there are no provenance indications in the book itself.
> Italian ownership could be an explanation for the colors!
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> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Jane Stemp Wickenden <
> jane.wickenden at zen.co.uk> wrote:
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> My immediate thought was "spattered" but as far as I know that is not a
> technical term! sorry ... one finger and a wet toothbrush comes to mind...
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> Was the book ever in Italian ownership, just as a matter of interest?
> (given the colours).
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> Jane
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> On 16/10/2015 00:15, Randal S. BRANDT wrote:
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> I'm trying to describe an edge decoration situation I've never seen
> before. Since a picture is more effective than words, please see some
> images I posted Flickr:
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7321780@N05/21582825453/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.flickr.com_photos_7321780-40N05_21582825453_&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=osltSoeCDQty5lmuoulgrFY35SLz-pJgoWLp6lezjgs&m=FSMSEPGTxKsN8N1hvXRd4GB3yZYiWbAEYBREnEjsx4Y&s=1oMLOnorZb8ovKVAqEM6wU3ShVFIb2Yy4Zt_0PtStyI&e=>
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> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7321780@N05/22016053948/
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.flickr.com_photos_7321780-40N05_22016053948_&d=CwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=osltSoeCDQty5lmuoulgrFY35SLz-pJgoWLp6lezjgs&m=FSMSEPGTxKsN8N1hvXRd4GB3yZYiWbAEYBREnEjsx4Y&s=kkIuxPeTPhf7gP_ixhYLDN_CMDBd_CXruuNRgUwxDgg&e=>
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> Right now, I've got "edges sprinkled [?] in alternating red and green
> stripes". Can anyone come up with something better? Is there a technical
> term for this type of decoration?
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> FYI, the book in question is Gart der Gesundheit (Augsburg : Johann
> Schönsperger, 1486).
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> Thanks!
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> Randal S. Brandt
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> The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
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> 510.643.2275 | rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu
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> Randal S. Brandt
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> The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
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> 510.643.2275 | rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu
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> Randal S. Brandt
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> The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
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> 510.643.2275 | rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu
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Randal S. Brandt
The Bancroft Library | University of California, Berkeley
510.643.2275 | rbrandt at library.berkeley.edu
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