[DCRM-L] DCRM-L Digest, Vol 119, Issue 1

Tue Jan 5 07:59:00 MST 2016

AAT has "calligraphy (visual works)" with scope note: "Works composed
primarily of beautiful, elegant letters or flourishes that are typically
created by hand with a pen, either in unjoined characters or in cursive
writing. May also refer to similar works created by computer or another
means." I suppose this could be stretched a bit where the cataloger has
determined that the lettering is prominent enough to be indexed.

http://www.getty.edu/vow/AATFullDisplay?find=calligraphy&logic=AND&note=&english=N&prev_page=1&subjectid=300266660

TGMII (source code gmgpc) has what looks like the more appropriate
"Lettering (Layout features)". But this seems (ill advisedly) to be limited
to "type elements" as well, though I'm never sure that these scope notes
are not rather carelessly worded--in this case the broader term is "Graphic
design drawings", and the term itself has scope note "Overall arrangement
of type elements (e.g., typeface, type size) in graphic design"--which
leads me to think that "typeface" is being used as a generic term for the
design of alphabetical characters however produced.

      http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/tgm/item/tgm005921/

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On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 9:51 PM, Cawelti, Andrea <cawelti at fas.harvard.edu>
wrote:

> Well phooey, and I've already used it several times--what is the consensus
> here, is Ornate types truly not appropriate for engraving and lithography?
> thanks, andrea
>  --
> Andrea Cawelti
> Ward Music Cataloger
> Houghton Library
> Harvard University
> Cambridge, MA  02138
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> Phone: (617) 495-8060
> FAX: (617) 495-1376
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>    1. Re: Decorative fonts (Matthew C. Haugen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 16:57:43 -0500
> From: "Matthew C. Haugen" <matthew.haugen at columbia.edu>
> To: "DCRM Users' Group" <dcrm-l at lib.byu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Decorative fonts
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> After re-reading the original message, I thought my response needed a
> disclaimer. The RBMS type evidence thesaurus introduction
> <http://rbms.info/vocabularies/introductions/TypeIntro.htm> indicates that
> the thesaurus is appropriate for describing types--both the impressions
> produced from type and the actual type sorts--scope notes of other terms in
> the thesaurus would suggest that this is inclusive of hand-set moveable
> type and various mechanical letterpress methods, stereotype plates, and
> even computer typography, but NOT not to lettering/text produced by other
> methods such as engraving/intaglio, lithography, calligraphy/manuscript,
> or typewriter. So for the engraved Strauss title pages, perhaps something
> from the Getty Art and Architecture Thesaurus
> <http://www.getty.edu/research/tools/vocabularies/aat/> or the Thesaurus
> for Graphic Materials <http://www.loc.gov/pictures/collection/tgm/> would
> be more appropriate?
>
> Matt
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Cawelti, Andrea <cawelti at fas.harvard.edu
> >
> wrote:
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> > Looks like "Ornate types" is indeed just the ticket, and my grateful
> > thanks to all who helped,
> > andrea
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> > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 12:35:06 -0500
> > From: "Matthew C. Haugen" <matthew.haugen at columbia.edu>
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> > Subject: Re: [DCRM-L] Decorative fonts
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> > Perhaps Ornate types or Display types, from the Type Evidence thesaurus?
> >
> > http://rbms.info/vocabularies/type/tr52.htm
> >
> > http://rbms.info/vocabularies/type/tr71.htm
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Cawelti, Andrea <
> cawelti at fas.harvard.edu
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone have a "go-to" genre heading for printed material sporting
> > > unusually splendid decorative fonts?  I'm particularly thinking of the
> > > amazing fonts used on some engraved Johann Strauss title pages, but
> > > have seen other title pages I'd like to find again, particularly in
> > > middle and later 19th cen. imprints.  Any suggestions from our
> > collective wisdom?
> > > Grateful thanks,
> > > andrea
> > > --
> > > (Ms.) Andrea Cawelti
> > > Ward Music Cataloger
> > > Houghton Library
> > > Harvard University
> > > Cambridge, MA  02138
> > >
> > > Phone: (617) 495-8060
> > > FAX: (617) 495-1376
> > > E-mail: cawelti at fas.harvard.edu
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> --
> Matthew C. Haugen
> Rare Book Cataloger
> 102 Butler Library
> Columbia University Libraries
> E-mail: matthew.haugen at columbia.edu
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